tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post5292972762327244171..comments2023-12-28T21:22:10.935-07:00Comments on Jill Outside: Sick dayJill Homerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02983065990450931943noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-65830573070994938732008-02-14T22:06:00.000-07:002008-02-14T22:06:00.000-07:00Came across this.http://www.granitegear.com/produc...Came across this.<BR/><BR/>http://www.granitegear.com/products/accessories/winterizer/index.htmlMatt McFeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06823547332817478623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-65373662282507019412008-02-07T16:36:00.000-07:002008-02-07T16:36:00.000-07:00Jill, I'm not sure if you are planning on using a ...Jill, I'm not sure if you are planning on using a front rack at this stage or not. <BR/><BR/>And by all means make your own decisions that you're comfortable with.<BR/><BR/>On my Pugs, I mounted my insulated bottle holders (mine are from Granite Gear) to my rack and fork legs with zip ties. Lots of zip ties...but I could put them right where I wanted them and there is no noticeable sway when riding at all.<BR/><BR/>I have two mounted on one side and one on the other. And yes, of course they can freeze solid if I don't drink the fluids within quickly enough. But the bottles are also easily removed and taken into a sleeping bag at night.<BR/><BR/>Best of luck in your endeavor. Be safe. Keep up the great riding and pics. Cheers!Kid Riemerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07537691052881191365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-65076535493350751012008-02-07T00:02:00.000-07:002008-02-07T00:02:00.000-07:00T,Thanks for your input. Sounds like a great ride!...T,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your input. Sounds like a great ride! <BR/><BR/>I have as little faith in Camelbaks as anyone, and know well those insulated bottles you speak of. There's a couple of reasons I've chosen to stick with the camelbak.<BR/><BR/>1.) I have no good way to mount those bottles to my current setup.<BR/>2.) I have a lot more water-carrying capacity in my Camelbak, especially if I go with the (tubeless) 6-liter MSR bladder I am considering.<BR/>3.) I have a vapor barrier that minimizes the escape of "back sweat." <BR/>4.) I am already planning to carry a small insulated bottle in one of my poggies to complement the possibly tubeless (or frozen) bladder.<BR/>5.) I am not fond of drinking out of bottles on the bike. Feeding myself is hard enough. To me, water in a frame-mounted bottle with a screw-top lid is nearly as inaccessible as water in a bladder inside a backpack.<BR/>6.) You may say I am planning on carrying too much water. I say I am not comfortable with stopping in the middle of the day to melt snow unless I have to.<BR/>7.) As far as I understand it, those insulated bottles aren't impervious to freezing. And once they are frozen, they become useless.<BR/><BR/>Bill and Kathi have more experience with this stuff that almost anyone, and I have no doubt that they know exactly what they're swearing by. But we all have our own needs, and I guess we all need to make our own mistakes.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for the advice!Jill Homerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02983065990450931943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-22196957311681929432008-02-06T23:12:00.000-07:002008-02-06T23:12:00.000-07:00Love your blog -inspirational.RE: your hydration p...Love your blog -inspirational.<BR/><BR/>RE: your hydration project <BR/><BR/>This weekend was my final sub-zero ride with a camelback style system. I was riding with a nice couple named Bill and Kathi. My bestest 1/2", pipe-insulation wrapped hose (with hand warmer enhancements), business end tucked in my armpit, froze. It was -10 F average, -20 F announced with enthusiasm by a certain fun-meter equipped rider. <BR/><BR/>Not wanting to diminish the pleasure of the ride (by bonking), I shamelessly got my fluids from the OR style Nalgene water bottle insulators that my riding companions swear by. <BR/><BR/>The quick freeze-up, the added "back-sweat" are the reasons why I have forsaken the bladder-style drinking for winter riding.<BR/><BR/>My riding partners knew the best solution, but also knew that different people have different solutions. They gently guided me towards the right answer.<BR/><BR/>Dhart, a well trained Ultrasport racer on mtbr.com also uses waterbottles mounted in the style of the early tour-de-france on the front of the bar. <BR/><BR/>At risk of making them completely unavailable, the older OR water bottle insulators are superior to the latest for insulation.( I have on good authority...)<BR/><BR/>Have a great race!<BR/><BR/>Tsaved by bikinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10480451898480814680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-69115115177857844062008-02-06T22:58:00.000-07:002008-02-06T22:58:00.000-07:00We've got that, my wife and I. The worst part goe...We've got that, my wife and I. The worst part goes by pretty fast, the cough hangs on a bit. It went through the office like fire in a dynamite factory. Not satisfied to have just the basic symptoms, I decided to throw in ear infections!<BR/><BR/>hang in there, focus your energy on recovery.<BR/><BR/>Luck to you on the trail.<BR/><BR/>Yr Pal DrCodfishAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-77108056637902668172008-02-06T18:13:00.000-07:002008-02-06T18:13:00.000-07:00I agree with the above. Rest up, get well, be safe...I agree with the above. Rest up, get well, be safe and mix a little rum in to lower the freezing point. Best wishes and good luck.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13301533235218419365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-5290553679058046632008-02-06T16:27:00.000-07:002008-02-06T16:27:00.000-07:00rest up.you're running out of time to be sick befo...rest up.<BR/><BR/>you're running out of time to be sick before the big event. don't rush back before you're healed up and feeling 'normal'<BR/><BR/>then kick some assj_ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03131643255215312664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-50233152211194496202008-02-06T16:17:00.000-07:002008-02-06T16:17:00.000-07:00just found your blog..love how you go "full bore"...just found your blog..love how you go "full bore" into everything...plus, the photos are awesome....<BR/><BR/>thanks muchtriguyjthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05843158282600595243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-46801302977086781502008-02-06T14:37:00.000-07:002008-02-06T14:37:00.000-07:00oh man, that sucks you are feeling so sick! but lo...oh man, that sucks you are feeling so sick! but look on the bright side - you'll get it all out of your system and be in perfect health for the big journey!brittanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02146637278213017034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-3818525505467180182008-02-06T12:12:00.000-07:002008-02-06T12:12:00.000-07:00Good you're feeling a bit better. I just had a fl...Good you're feeling a bit better. I just had a flash thought of somehow useing those hand warmer packets as heaters along your hose or next to the bladder to keep the temperture up. packets are small and lite so maybe wouldn't be too bulky or trouble.Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12589549450495962640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-44956453669764578872008-02-06T11:10:00.000-07:002008-02-06T11:10:00.000-07:00Best of luck to you on your race!Best of luck to you on your race!scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03065207132260437430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-15951851063661236552008-02-06T10:56:00.000-07:002008-02-06T10:56:00.000-07:00It is too bad you can not route the hose between t...It is too bad you can not route the hose between the base layer and the second layer. That would keep the hose warm enough so that it would not freeze. I think to do this you would have to extend your hose length and some how have it run thrugh loops or open pockets to hold it in place. The only other thing to overcome would be attaching it to your bladder. Just throwing ideas out and maybe someone may be bold enough to try it. Oh and were to have it come out so it is easy to access.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-90671687484767096372008-02-06T09:24:00.000-07:002008-02-06T09:24:00.000-07:00I'll be interested to see if the Ghostbuster metho...I'll be interested to see if the Ghostbuster method works for you. I too have had endless problems keeping the hoses from freezing when hiking.Betty Mountain Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08041641528000116500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-7911037305651422012008-02-06T08:56:00.000-07:002008-02-06T08:56:00.000-07:00mix in a little rum with your drink. should lower...mix in a little rum with your drink. should lower the freezing level a bit! ;-)andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01746307300052604756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-83346100398385383332008-02-06T08:34:00.000-07:002008-02-06T08:34:00.000-07:00Lol, who you gonna call...I'm thinking about modif...Lol, who you gonna call...<BR/>I'm thinking about modifying a couple Nalgene bottles with short hoses, stick those in OR bottle parkas and rig up some sort of harness to hang off my chest. The short straight hose would drain back on it's own, the hose would be easily kept completely inside my jacket, and I think there's plenty of heat coming off my chest to keep everything working. And if all else fails I could always just screw off the cap and drink out of the bottle. You can throw bottles in a pot and thaw them back out with a stove too. Have to do some experimenting, might be too much of a hassle on front though. Or maybe just stick them on my back and run the hose inside my clothes and come up from under my arm. The hose always seems to freeze right on top of my shoulder first, at least when I forget to blow the water back out anyways. <BR/><BR/>Good to hear you're feeling better.<BR/><BR/>DGNeve_r_esthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13329919180492986371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-25014171386832273662008-02-06T06:22:00.000-07:002008-02-06T06:22:00.000-07:00Yeesh--maybe Geoff could whip up some spicy Indian...Yeesh--maybe Geoff could whip up some spicy Indian food to blast that cold right the heck out of you! I've also been reading some of the blogs you link to & think it might be worth the smile factor for you to bring a couple gummi worms along for your ride.<BR/><BR/>As an aside, it took several tries for me to convince my husband that people actually bike off-road in Alaska in the wintertime. We'll both be rooting for you from Pittsburgh!southsiderpghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07767631123707162334noreply@blogger.com