tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post7768707587993191152..comments2023-12-28T21:22:10.935-07:00Comments on Jill Outside: Another long day in the sunJill Homerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02983065990450931943noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-66600800968967102142013-04-28T12:39:39.331-06:002013-04-28T12:39:39.331-06:00DOntCHA just luv @$$0 that put garbage in the mess...DOntCHA just luv @$$0 that put garbage in the messages, ref. 11:08 AM & 4:44 PM ?<br /><br />Jill, awesome report as usual. I gain knowledge from your blogsite and the comments. Thanks Durango Joe. I probably could use a bike fitting also.<br />The shoes I like best are mtn bike ones with a more box like toe, like Diadora Geko. Bought a pair then went back a couple of months later and bought 2 more pair. Da dog ate the most used pair, nice to have back-ups.roannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-89369483514882301602013-04-26T17:44:10.039-06:002013-04-26T17:44:10.039-06:00get a jobget a jobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-776774405916062902013-04-25T16:14:32.576-06:002013-04-25T16:14:32.576-06:00And I'm caught up! I've now read all of J...And I'm caught up! I've now read all of Jill Outside from its beginning to now.Cumulushttp://www.cookhimes.us/dennis.htmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-15426140271749256402013-04-25T11:50:01.916-06:002013-04-25T11:50:01.916-06:00Hi Jill,
I'd like to suggest you try two stra...Hi Jill,<br /><br />I'd like to suggest you try two strap bike sandals. Sandals allow lots of room while keeping the benefit of being clipped in. <br /><br />I'm a recumbent rider mainly but also own a Bike Friday and a "Phat Velo", and used my sandals during winter rides on the bent and the FatBike. My winter is NO where as extreme as yours but the sandals allow me to wear a layer of silk socks and one or two pairs of wool socks.<br /><br />During the summer I'm sockless with the sandals and yup can wiggle my toes to my heart's content. <br /><br />What size Europen shoe do you wear? I have 3 pairs of Lake Sandals and could loan you a pair to try. It's payback. When I first started road cycling a CAT racers offered me a pair of her shoes so I could try clipless. <br /><br />Drop me a note if interessted at joesuekeenan at gmail dot com<br /> Slo Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13727494438183513283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-52040575183485256072013-04-25T08:24:20.318-06:002013-04-25T08:24:20.318-06:00Here are the Retul bike fitters in California:
ht...Here are the Retul bike fitters in California:<br /><br />https://www.retul.com/find-a-fitter/#/USA/CaliforniaDurango Joehttps://plus.google.com/105434736275263996045#photos/105434736275263996045/albumsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-87886099547013165902013-04-25T08:14:02.519-06:002013-04-25T08:14:02.519-06:00If you can find a place that uses the "Retul&...If you can find a place that uses the "Retul" system which uses motion capture, it's a really good process for getting fit - dynamically. Probably ain't cheap, but could be well worth it. They view you from all angles and adjust subtle stuff like pronation/supination, foot position over the cleat, etc. <br /><br />https://www.retul.com/Durango Joehttps://plus.google.com/105434736275263996045#photos/105434736275263996045/albumsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-59673374664974440972013-04-25T00:02:30.901-06:002013-04-25T00:02:30.901-06:00Yeah I was using platforms since my feet are still...Yeah I was using platforms since my feet are still a bit funky from the Iditarod, and I just happened to have them rested funny in the picture. I probably could profit from a good bike fitting, though I'm reasonably happy with the ride since I did not suffer as much back pain as I anticipated even though I haven't ridden much in a long time. My back doesn't bend very well so I prefer a fairly upright position. On the plus side Jill and I can basically exchange bikes without adjustments :)<br />Btw a colleague asked me where to get a good bike fit, and I couldn't really make a good recommendation - any experiences with this? Are the "pro fits" that you can get for lots of money worth it? Do you have to just find a good bike store? I had never felt that people did a really thorough job ...<br />Beatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-27862075065109725232013-04-24T17:08:55.781-06:002013-04-24T17:08:55.781-06:00Jill - congratulations on your longest road ride! ...Jill - congratulations on your longest road ride! How funny, my longest road ride was almost exactly a year ago, on the Earth Day 4/22/2012 from San Luis Obispo to Monterey: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/171092018Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03059137901941493531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-1481088136460823022013-04-24T15:49:10.800-06:002013-04-24T15:49:10.800-06:00My road shoes are Giro, but I've tried Special...My road shoes are Giro, but I've tried Specialized in the past, as well as Cannondale and Sidi MTB shoes (forgetting the exact models.) I've suspected that the toe pain is a result of the rigidity of the shoes, which is necessary in all clipless models. It's not a problem on shorter rides, it's when I go into touring mode — 4-plus hours — that I start to have issues with pinching pains in my toes and numbness in my heel. This is also an issue with my boots in longer winter rides such as the WM100, even though I use flat pedals on my fat bike. Again, I suspect it boils down to rigid outer shells, as I can do a very long ride in running shoes and never feel this pain. <br /><br />I'm not exactly sure what you mean by external rotation, but as you can see Beat is using platform pedals as well, so his feet are positioned where he feels most comfortable. He normally doesn't use flats but also wanted a pair of comfy shoes for the ride. Also, we tend to ride these bikes interchangeably in the same settings, even though he is about 5" taller than me (but similar inseam.) I'm sure we'd both probably benefit from a bike fitting. Jill Homerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02983065990450931943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-18526796484355681112013-04-24T15:21:45.047-06:002013-04-24T15:21:45.047-06:00Two things - I know what you mean about foot pain....Two things - I know what you mean about foot pain. Specialized bike shoes tend to fit American feet pretty well - narrower heel, wider forefoot, canted out a few degrees to counteract natural pronation, a substantial built-in arch support, and a metatarsal arch to help avoid nerve pain in the forefoot. Also, IMHO, looking at the pictures, I think Beat might benefit from a bike fitting on his road bike, I don't thik he is in the sweet spot, not quite as efficient as he might be. Is it my imagination or do his feet have a great degree of external rotation? CheersDurango Joehttps://plus.google.com/105434736275263996045#photos/105434736275263996045/albumsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-30497383964905362642013-04-24T08:51:17.364-06:002013-04-24T08:51:17.364-06:00Great ride (and post and photos). You'd be in...Great ride (and post and photos). You'd be in heaven here; another foot of snow over the last few days. Thankfully, all should melt today and tomorrow, allowing me to get out for a long ride in the mountains (with clip-in pedals :-) <br /><br />Have a good few weeks of training for the 100 in a month.Local Mind Mediahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676782580566794924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18615538.post-81851420246519753482013-04-24T05:45:30.300-06:002013-04-24T05:45:30.300-06:00Hi Jill:
I enjoy your blog. You may be intereste...Hi Jill:<br /><br />I enjoy your blog. You may be interested in this website. (I too use flats on my carbon road bike - for similar reasons. I like to be able to move my feet around and use different muscles, and I find normal shoes to be more comfortable than cycling shoes.)<br /><br />http://www.bikejames.com/strength/the-flat-pedal-revolution-manifesto-how-to-improve-your-riding-with-flat-pedals/Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02883789856075552519noreply@blogger.com